If an 802 driver has the tangerine phase plug, it's an 802-8G correct? Or maybe a -16G?
See attached photo.
ron
You are correct Ron, but your pic shows an 806 body which appears to be a model 23746 HF driver from a 9849 monitor. It should have a new style back cover, a 23744 "light" phragm, and a steel annular slit phase plug.
As far as i know those drivers are unique and only found in the 9849's, fine sounding driver and best of the 806's IMO.
Not all vegetables make good leaders.
The owner says he see's orange when he looks down the driver throat.......
Says tangerine to me. Right?
And these are from 9849 monitors. Seems altec made many variations!
Where I get confused is with the 806's. I have only owned these:
I gather the later 806 body is different from the 802?
Were there any 806 drivers with the tangerine phase plug?
I see the body in my orig photo is a bit samller.
I don't want to ask the seller to remove the diaphram, too easy to damage if you haven't done it before.
As I've stated, my 9849 has the 902-16A driver and a 414-8E woof.
Ron
Originally Posted by bowtie427ss
Not as such. Essentially the 806 was discontinued, it was the cheaper model and the cost of Alnico ended it's life.
The same driver was still used in cabs with the tangerine, but you couldn't buy one separately. It carried a part number rather than 806 designation. It was, technically a Tangerine 806, just not labeled so.
However, just like the new style frames, tangerines can appear in later 802, 806 and 807 drivers that aren't supposed to have them. They usually have old style covers though, those have new style covers and are supposed to be tangerine.
I owned a pair of 807's with tangerines and old style covers.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
Crikey! Altec was really the Johnny Cash of audio wasn't it?
"Well it's a 49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59 automobile. Well it's a 60,61,62,63....."
One piece at time, brother.
No Tangerines here.
Some of the bug screens have a definite bronze/orange tint, without a good pic it's hard to be sure what the owner is looking at.The owner says he see's orange when he looks down the driver throat.......
I've also seen plenty of tangerine equipped drivers where the tangerine wasn't easily seen because of the bug screen either being dirty or of a color/finish that obscured the view thru the throat.
Definitely a later version with mud motors. Odd that the HF is 16 ohm, i wonder if the crossover was revised accordingly.As I've stated, my 9849 has the 902-16A driver and a 414-8E woof.
They made 9849's for a long time and there were undoubtedly many changes along the way, probably impossible to catch them all. The earliest ones were a sealed box and 900hz XO, most uncommon IMO.
Not all vegetables make good leaders.
I REALLY would have expected them too.
What can you do? Parts apparently were thrown into bins...and you got what was pulled out by the assembler.
Same thing happened at Fender in the early 50's. Serial number plates were thrown into the bin...sometimes you'll get a serial number a year out of sequence from the neck date.
That BTW is documented by ex-workers. I don't have any issue believing the same thing happened at Altec.
A repair at the user level could account for the 16 ohm fram...maybe yes,maybe no.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
The label on the driver, after you remove it says 902-16A
A repair at the user level could account for the 16 ohm fram...maybe yes,maybe no.
Ron
The only spec sheet i can find with the 414-8E as the woofer says 902-8T for HF.The label on the driver, after you remove it says 902-16A
http://www.altecpro.com/pdfs/vintage...r%20System.pdf
I'd wager one of two things, either the driver was swapped at some point, or it was assembled using the rear cover that was "on the shelf" but probably has the 902-8T load internally.
If the spec sheet/sales slick reads true, then the stock XO wouldn't be quite right for a 16ohm hf load without modification.
Not all vegetables make good leaders.
My hf driver has no back cover. Just the loading cap. I removed the fram and it is indeed 16 ohms.
I agree it will mess up the crossover.
And there wasn't a build sheet under the back seat or on top of the gas tank like the old Chevys.
Ron
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